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標題: 自娛自樂--飼料添加劑木聚糖酶活力的測定 [打印本頁]

作者: 等離子    時間: 2008-6-9 13:27
標題: 自娛自樂--飼料添加劑木聚糖酶活力的測定
  從《飼料添加劑木聚糖酶活力的測定》申報稿的編撰者來看,除尤特爾一家來自實際發酵生產廠家,其余無一例外代表了飼料酶銷售從業者。來自國內微生物酶研究行業領域具有廣泛代表性的人士一個沒有。盡管編撰者宣稱該標準申報稿是分析了近300個含有木聚糖酶的飼料酶樣品而制定。給人的印象顯得空洞無力,可以稱之為--行業的自娛自樂!并不為過。
     木聚糖結構形式的復雜性導致了微生物木聚糖酶生成基因的分子進化途徑的多樣性。不同的產酶工程菌在發酵時同時產生幾種木聚糖酶是常有的事(一些微生物可同時產生幾種內切木聚糖酶,一部分屬于F10族,另一部分可能屬于G11族),隸屬F10族和G11族木聚糖酶產生的高分子量木聚糖酶和低分子量木聚糖酶的作用底物方式、作用效率截然不同。作用方式的迥然差異,使得酶活檢測結果不好比較。對應用于飼料的木聚糖酶國家有沒有限制在哪一類木聚糖酶呢?如果沒有,以不變的標準衡量F10族和G11族的木聚糖酶酶活是否是合適的呢?---很顯然,是不合適的。
      酶制劑檢測方法是按下面原則建立---“酶反應動力學是通過建立濃度與反應速度的關系,以酶的濃度來反映酶促反應速度,即酶活力的大小。(當飽和的底物濃度遠大于Km時,酶促反應速度與酶的總濃度具有線性關系,此時的酶活正比于酶濃度而與底物無關)”。在不同溫度、pH值下檢測,原始酶液的濃度并沒有發生變化,變化的是酶促反應速度和失活速度(通過測定底物的消耗量或產物生成量來反映)
      酶反應初速度的大小是指在反應時間為零時的酶反應速度,由于酶促反應速度由底物或產物變化量反映,所以實際上,在時間為零的初速度是不能測定的,要接近這個值,因此規定酶反應初速度是:在整個恒溫反應時間里,底物消耗量在5%以內,或產物形成量占總產物量的15%以下時的速度。      
      從這個觀點出發,只有酶反應條件滿足于最適溫度、最適pH條件下,酶促反應速度達到最大,才容易接近酶反應初速度真實值,底物消耗量在5%以內,或產物形成量占總產物量的15%以下。太低的反應溫度,使得酶檢測的準確度,可靠性受到質疑。
      如果假定應用于飼料的飼料酶,應該在動物體溫下,檢測酶促反應大小的觀點是對的,那么動物消化道的pH范圍從2~6,pH5.5的條件只是一個點而已,酶催化的pH位點范圍很大,某一pH位點的檢測值能反映胃腸道里真實的酶促反應大小嗎?顯然是不行的。同時商品木聚糖酶相當于水解木聚糖的復合酶。每一種產酶工程菌的催化最適條件--反映的是其包含的幾種內切、外切、脫枝酶在該條件下,用還原法檢測,具有最大催化底物效率的條件。偏離了最適條件,對內切酶是合適的,但對外切酶、脫枝酶可能就不合適了。偏離最適條件下的檢測結果,對生產的指導意義何在?
      既然無法據此作出酶活與催化轉化營養素量的關系,那又何必畫蛇添足,多此一舉,非要把測定溫度規定死在37℃?不同來源的酶最適反應溫度不同,最適pH不同,酶活檢測,目的更多的是為企業核算生產和采購成本提供依據。
     由此,不得而知,這個《飼料添加劑木聚糖酶活力的測定》也就是以片面代替全部,以自己想法建立市場準則。

[ 本帖最后由 等離子 于 2008-6-13 11:52 編輯 ]
作者: lvjianlin991515    時間: 2008-6-12 16:13
有見地,樓主是專門研究酶制劑的嗎?好像對酶有很深的認識啊。學習了。
作者: zhangq8201    時間: 2008-6-12 16:28
標題: 回復 樓主 等離子 的帖子
你是怎么設置的?讓你的頭像上方顯示的是你的昵稱,而不是用戶名呀?:deng:
作者: 等離子    時間: 2008-6-13 11:54
只怕會“老板很生氣!!后果很嚴重!!!”
作者: yuebao101    時間: 2008-6-13 14:45
上次會議,有個酶制劑公司的技術總監(博士)居然說,他們的酶在調制起中就能起很大的作用.那不過是1--2分鐘的時間啊!
作者: robust    時間: 2008-6-13 15:31
樓主,對酶了解的很深啊
作者: 等離子    時間: 2008-6-14 13:06
“看來,批判的種子在中國傳統教育這片標準化、格式化的土壤中根本汲取不到任何營養。一位研究中西方文化異同的學者風趣地總結:中國人與西方人讀書方式的不同決定了思維方式的不同。中國過去的書是從上向下看的,每讀一行就點一下頭;西方人的書是橫排的,每讀一行就要搖一下頭。所以中國人總是在肯定和認同前人的思想,而西方人則總是在否定和質疑前人的論述。”引自:http://topic.news.hexun.com/eco/blank1_4338.aspx
作者: JH_C    時間: 2008-7-16 14:22
樓主對酶的研究不淺啊,讓我們這些新兵受益了!
作者: feilong4120    時間: 2008-7-27 10:31
感覺樓主談的很深刻,檢驗酶質量好壞的標準,酶活只是表面的一個直觀因素,真正還是要看飼養效果,實踐是檢驗真理的唯一標準!
作者: qiaoyongniu    時間: 2008-7-28 20:38
從《飼料添加劑木聚糖酶活力的測定》申報稿的編撰者來看,除尤特爾一家來自實際發酵生產廠家,其余無一例外代表了飼料酶銷售從業者。-----這句話有失偏頗,調查一下才可以這樣說的哦。不過樓主對酶制劑的理解還是比較深刻的
作者: dongbaihua2000    時間: 2008-7-28 21:19
佩服佩服!
作者: 等離子    時間: 2008-8-4 13:55
不單是木聚糖酶的檢測如此,連纖維素酶檢測,B-葡聚糖酶檢測也是如此,似乎樣樣農業部都想要有自己的標準,表面上是分庭抗爭,其實是樣樣跟人身后,抄襲他人,全無創意。例如,對于纖維素酶檢測,之前實際上已有《QB 2583-2005 纖維素酶制劑》頒布,作為纖維素酶檢測的標準并無不妥,該標準集合各生產企業、研究單位的意見編訂,對纖維素酶的檢測方方面面的表述已做到全面。而對于纖維素酶這樣,具有復雜多樣別類的同工酶的,如果不同時采用濾紙法、cmc 法同時檢測,是不能得到一個完整的產酶質量判斷的。
    農業部標準對飼料纖維素酶檢測的方法,可以說是對《QB 2583-2005 纖維素酶制劑》部分內容的復制,對飼料飼養生產中酶的應用,實際沒有建設性的改進。僅僅是把測定溫度修改成37度,把些無關痛癢的地方修修改改,這種搞法,有不如無。下一步難道要把淀粉酶、糖化酶、蛋白酶、半乳糖苷酶、甘露聚糖酶、果膠酶等等凡是飼料中能用到的,不理會是否已有國標或輕工業部頒標準的,全都再搞個農業部標準?
      學營養的,談到酶的應用,動不動奢談,要由飼養試驗里來考察。可是人力物力財力耗費大不說!大家都還忘了,如果你連手里用來試驗的酶,到底是什么酶,有些什么特性,都沒搞清楚,豈不是空談誤人。今天是由這個酶得出的結論,明天換個酶就不清楚,該結論還是不是繼續成立?

[ 本帖最后由 等離子 于 2008-8-4 15:00 編輯 ]
作者: 崔若偉    時間: 2008-12-21 13:32
標題: Xylazyme AX fangTablets
Q. 1: Could you please provide me with a detailed definition for the xylanase unit?
A: The units are International Units of activity determined using the Somogyi reducing sugar method.
One Unit is the amount of enzyme required to release one micromole of xylose reducing sugar
equivalents from wheat arabinoxylan per minute under defined conditions of temperature and pH.
Q. 2: I am attempting to assay brewer’s malt for xylanase using Xylanase AX tablets. Can you please give
me a protocol?
A: There is very little xylanase in malt. I suggest you use the same buffer as recommended (25 mM
acetate, pH 4.7). You will need to increase incubation times to 1-2 hours.
Q. 3: When analysing a diluted sample, should the absorbance value or the calculated result be multiplied
with the dilution?
A: The calculated result should be multiplied by the dilution.
Q. 4: I have started to use your tablets for xylanase activity. It seems to work on enzyme preparations, but
my main objective is to analyse cereal samples with very low activity. I have a problem with
sensitivity. Do you think I can increase sensitivity by increasing incubation time?
A: Yes, you can increase the sensitivity by increasing the incubation time. Also, you can increase the
temperature (up to 60oC) to improve sensitivity. I would recommend the time increase approach, as
this allows you to use the same standard curve. Allow for the time difference in the calculations.
Q. 5: Do you have a method to check for arabinoxylanase in concentrated Aspergillus and Trichoderma
cellulase to be used in baking improvers?
A: Arabinoxylanase is actually "xylanase". This is the enzyme which depolymerises arabinoxylans.
Xylazyme AX can be used for both Aspergillus and Trichoderma xylanases.
Q. 6: In the booklet for the Xylazyme AX tablets, there are 3 standard curves. You say on page 7 – "by
reference to the appropriate standard curve" - which one of these curves should one use?
A: The most common enzyme used in baking is from A. niger and for animal feeds is from Trichoderma.
Therefore, I would suggest that you choose between these depending on the intended use of the
unknown enzyme.
Q. 7: We have noticed differences of results when using different filters, such as Whatman 1 paper vs glass
filter paper.
A: I had noticed a difference between paper filters (Whatman No 1) and Whatman Glass Fibre Filters
(GF/A), with the latter giving a slightly higher absorbance in the filtrate. I think that this may be due
to some absorption of the dyed fragments to cellulose, but not to glass. We proceeded with the
cellulose (Whatman No 1) because they are inexpensive compared glass. All of the standard curves are
based on use of the Whatman No.1 filter papers.
Q. 8: Do you still have Xylazyme tablets which derive from birchwood?
A: We do not produce Xylazyme from birchwood xylan anymore. We find that wheat arabinoxylan gives
a more stable substrate. There was a great variation in the quality of the birchwood xylan that we could
obtain, and this resulted in a large variation in the quality of the resulting dyed substrate.
Q. 9: Regarding the assay by using Xylazyme and Xylaxyme AX, within how many minutes after filtration
of the reacted solution should the absorbance be measured?
A: When using Xylazyme or Xylazyme AX tablets, filtration should be performed about 5 minutes after
stopping the reaction. For Xylanases with alkaline pH optima, please use 2% tri sodium phosphate
(pH 11) to stop the reaction (instead of Trizma base). After filtration, the solutions are stable for
several hours, so there is no urgency in reading the absorbances. However, as stated above, the
solutions should be filtered no more than 10 minutes after addition of the stopping reagent. The
substrate is unstable in alkaline conditions, and colour will leak from the substrate leading to high
blank values.
Q. 10: Is AZCL-Xylan (oat spelts) the best substrate to determine arabinoxylanase activity in brewer’s malt?
A: We would not recommend AZCL-Xylan (oat) for this assay. The sensitivity is too low. Xylazyme AX
tablets are more sensitive.
Q. 11: I have a question about the optimum temperature for the use of Glucazyme and Xylazyme tablets. We
have determined the optimum. We found for the Glucazyme analysis a temperature of 40oC instead of
30oC and for the xylazyme analysis a temperature of 50oC instead of 40oC. Can you tell us how you
determine the temperature optimum? Don’t you think it is necessary to determine the activity by the
optimum temperature?
A: We do not give a "temperature optimum" for use of the tablets, we just recommend a "suggested"
assay format for different enzymes. Malt beta-glucanase is unstable above 30oC, so that is why we
recommend this temperature. In fact, the tablet substrate is stable up to at least 70oC at pH values
below 6.0.
We routinely recommend 40oC for all other enzyme tests just for consistency. You can use
Xylazyme AX tablets up to 70oC with no problems.
Q. 12: Why does a higher buffer strength ( >100 mM) inhibit the degradation of AZCL-Xylan in the
Xylazyme AX method.
A: Salt effects sensitivity by effecting the rate and extent of swelling of the dyed and crosslinked substrate
particles. If the swelling of the particles is restricted, this limits the ability of the enzyme to access the
substrate and thus to hydrolyse it.
Q. 13: We are using the Megazyme Xylazyme AX tablets. Can you please clarify the following:
Booklet Page 4 – Enzyme Standards: Procedures indicate that "these" should be diluted 1:100. When
you state "these" are you referring to the fact that the entire contents of the bottle should be diluted
1:100 or should only 1 ml be diluted 1:100? Should a positive control sample be run every time an
assay is performed to confirm the test kit is operating properly?
A: If diluting the control, it is best to just dilute 1 ml. The test is very simple and very reliable. It is
advisable to run a control each time, mainly to give the analyst confidence that he is running the test
correctly.
Q. 14: After addition of the Xylazyme AX tablet, should the slurry be removed from the 40oC water bath and
be allowed to react for 10 minutes at room temperature, or should the AX test tablet be added while
the test tubes remain in the 40oC water bath and then removed after the 10 minute incubation?
A: Must be left at 40oC for the 10 minutes.
Q. 15: Regarding the standard curve for Xylazyme Tablets. We wish to measure xylanase activity produced
by a submerged culture of Aspergillus. I am assuming that we will have to derive a standard curve for
this variant?
A: Yes, I think that you will. But I expect that it will be very similar to the A. niger curve in the booklet.
Q. 16: I need to have the values of accuracy of the following two methods:
i) endo-1,4-beta-xylanase, using Xylazyme AX tablets.
ii) endo-1,4-mannanase, using Beta-Mannazyme tablets.
A: The repeatability for these two assays is +/- 7%.
Q. 17: Could you please confirm that Xylazyme and Xylazyme AX are both made from Wheat Arabinoxylan?
A: Yes, now both Xylazyme and Xylazyme AX contain AZCL-wheat arabinoxylan. The only difference
in the products is the tablet size (weight).
Q. 18: Could you please confirm if the Xylazyme tablets are actually the same content as that of the AZCLarabinoxylan
from wheat, which is sold as catalogue number I-AZWAX, in the insoluble chromogenic
substrates section of your catalogue?
A: Yes.
作者: 崔若偉    時間: 2008-12-21 13:36
這是愛爾蘭megazyme公司的方法,名稱是xylazyme ax方法,他們的網站上有詳細資料:www.megazyme.com
作者: 胡海波    時間: 2008-12-29 23:05
關注酶,關注酶制劑公司,其實最重要的是用好酶!!
讓酶制劑這種高科技含量的產品真正的為飼料工業的發展服務!!!
作者: lcy0610    時間: 2008-12-29 23:46
酶本身沒有錯,錯的是那些不起作用的酶,或者那些賣酶的人




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